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ALREADY TODAY MEMBERS OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAVE LAUNCHED AN ATTACK ON EDWARD SNOWDEN BASED SO FAR ON JUST PORTIONS OF INTERVIEW WE'VE RELEASED PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S HOUR-LONG BROADCAST IN PRIME SOMETIME. SNOWDEN IS ACCUSED OF ESPIONAGE FOR STEALING SECRETS FROM THE GOVERNMENT, MANY OF WHICH REVEALED THE EXTENT OF GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE ON ALL OF US. MANY REGARD HIM AS A TRAITOR WHO SHOULD PAY DEERLY FOR WHAT HE'S DONE AND MANY BELIEVE HE'S DONE GRAVE DAMAGE TO THE UNITED STATES. SOME VIEWERS LET US KNOW THEY ARE OUTRAGE THAT WE INTERVIEWED HIM AT ALL. TONIGHT, HOWEVER, OUR VIEWERS GET TO HEAR HIS FIRST INTERVIEW ON AMERICAN TELEVISION THAT WILL INCLUDE THIS NEW PORTION. SNOWDEN'S CONTENTION THAT THE AMOUNT OF DOMESTIC SURVEILLANCE HE WITNESSED WHILE AT THE NSA GAVE HIM NO CHOICE BUT TO BLOW THE WHISTLE BECAUSE OF WHAT HE SAW AND WHAT A FEDERAL JUDGE HAS SENSE LABELED AS CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS. >> THE REALITY IS THE SITUATION DETERMINED THAT THIS NEEDED TO BE TOLD TO THE PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN VIOLATED ON A MASSIVE SCALE. NOW, HAD THAT NOT HAPPENED, HAD THE GOVERNMENT NOT GONE TOO FAR AND OVER REACHED, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE SITUATION WHERE WHISTLE-BLOWERS WERE NECESSARY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE DON'T SET THEIR LIVES ON FIRE. THEY DON'T SAY GOOD-BYE TO THEIR FAMILIES, ACTUALLY PACK UP WITHOUT SAYING GOOD-BYE TO THEIR FAMILIES. THEY DON'T WALK AWAY FROM THEIR EXTRAORDINARY, EXTRAORDINARY COMFORTABLE LIVES. 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I NOTICED EARLIER THIS YEAR YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE DISCLOSURES ABOUT THE NSA MADE BECAUSE OF SNOWDEN THAT YOU YOURSELF WERE NOT AWARE OF, THAT CONSTITUTED NSA OVERREACH. DOES THAT CHANGE THE CALCULUS AT ALL FOR YOU? >> THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. LET HIM COME BACK AND MAKE HIS CASE. THE FACT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE SHOULD -- IF HE CARES SO MUCH ABOUT AMERICA AND HE BELIEVES IN AMERICA, HE SHOULD TRUST IN THE AMERICAN SYSTEM OF JUSTICE. BUT TO BE HIDING IN RUSSIA, AN AUTHORITARIAN COUNTRY, BUT TO HAVE JUST ADMITTED THAT HE WAS TRYING TO GET TO CUBA, WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU? I THINK HE'S CONFUSED, VERY SAD. THIS IS A MAN WHO'S DONE GREAT DAMAGE TO HIS COUNTRY, VIOLATED HIS OATH, WHICH HE TOOK WHEN HE BECAME AN EMPLOYEE, AND YES, IN FACT, STOLE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION AND RELEASED IT TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE DETRIMENT OF HIS COUNTRY. >> CIRCUMSTANCE LETSIR, LET'S MOVE ON TO AFGHANISTAN. THE PRESIDENT ANNOUNCED THE COMBAT MISSION WILL END, AND ALL TROOPS OUT ESSENTIALLY OTHER THAN EMBASSY PERSONNEL AND THOSE TO GUARD THEM AT THE END OF 2016. THE PRESIDENT SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING. HE SAID, WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT AFGHANISTAN WILL NOT BE A PERFECT PLACE AND IT IS NOT AMERICA'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE IT ONE. IS IT A FAIR ASSESSMENT THAT HE'S BASICALLY SAYING, WE ARE LEAVING AFGHANISTAN AT THE END OF 2016 REGARDLESS OF THE SECURITY SITUATION THERE? WE ARE WASHING OUR HANDS OF AFGHANISTAN? >> WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING IS GIVING THE AFGHANS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO RUN, MANAGE, DEFEND, FIGHT FOR THEIR OWN COUNTRY. AND THE FACT IS THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED SINCE 2009 WHEN THE PRESIDENT CAME IN AND THERE WAS NO POLICY IN AFGHANISTAN. AFGHANISTAN WAS ADRIFT. BECAUSE ALL OF THE FOCUS HAD BEEN SHIFTED TO IRAQ, INCLUDING MANY OF THE RESOURCES. SO THE PRESIDENT FOCUSED ON AFGHANISTAN, AND HE SET DATES, HE SET TARGETS. 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