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THE COURT'S JUNE 2012 RULING  UPHOLDING THE ACA'S INDIVIDUAL  MANDATE, A KEY PROVISION OF THE  LAW, WAS A MAJOR VICTORY IN THE  HISTORY OF LEGAL CHALLENGES THAT HAVE PLAGUED THE LAW SINCE IT  WAS FIRST PASSED IN 2010. BUT THIS WEEK, THE AFFORDABLE  CARE ACT IS FACING THE YET  ANOTHER HIGH-STAKES  CONSTITUTIONAL HURDLE BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT. ON TUESDAY, THE JUSTICES WILL  HEAR 90 MINUTES OF ARGUMENTS IN  TWO CASES, ONE OF WHICH,  SEBELIUS VERSUS HOBBY LOBBY, IS  THE COURT'S MOST CLOSELY WATCHED CASE OF THE YEAR. AT ISSUE IS THE QUESTION OF  WHETHER OR NOT EMPLOYERS CAN USE RELIGIOUS OBJECTIONS TO DENY  EMPLOYEES THE CONTRACEPTIVE  COVER REQUIRED BY THE ACA. THE PLAINTIFF, HOBBY LOBBY IS A  MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CHAIN OF  CRAFT STORES OWNED BY A DEVOUT  CHRISTIAN FAMILY THAT SUED ON  THE GROUNDS THAT THE  CONTRACEPTIVE MAN DATE BURDENS  THE COMPANY'S BELIEFS. BUT IT WOULD BE THE COMPANY, NOT THE FAMILY, THAT BANS  CONTRACEPTIONS. SO THEY'RE ASKING TO EXTEND TO  IT THE SAME RELIGIOUS  PROTECTIONS GUARANTEED TO  CHURCHES OR INDIVIDUALS. WHICH IS WHY A RULING IN THEIR  FAVOR COULD HAVE WIDE-RANGING  CONSEQUENCES. BUT IT'S ASKING THAT THE SUPREME COURT -- BECAUSE IT'S ASKING THE SUPREME COURT -- ASKING THAT THE SUPREME COURT MAKE A FINDING  THAT NO COURT HAS EVER MADE. IF THE COURT AGREES WITH HOBBY  LOBBY'S ARGUMENT, IT WOULD BE  HOLDING FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER  THAT CORPORATIONS ARE ENTITLED  TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT OF  THE FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGION. THAT DECISION COULD POTENTIALLY  OPEN THE FLOODGATES FOR  CORPORATIONS TO CHALLENGE  FEDERAL PROTECTIONS ON  EVERYTHING, FROM LBGT  DISCRIMINATION TO CHILDHOOD  IMMUNIZATION REQUIREMENTS, ALL  BASED ON A RELIGIOUS OBJECTION. AND WHAT'S MORE? A RULING IN FAVOR OF HOBBY LOBBY WOULD ALSO MEAN THE COURT AGREES WITH HOBBY LOBBY'S COMPLETELY  INACCURATE BELIEFS ABOUT  CONTRACEPTION. HOBBY LOBBY IS SPECIFICALLY  OBJECTING TO COVERING THE  EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS,  PLAN B. AND ELLA, AND  INTRAUTERINE DEVICES, COMMONLY  KNOWN AS IUDs. IT IS BASED ON THEIR BELIEF THAT THEY ARE USED TO END PREGNANCY. EXCEPT THAT BELIEF IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. BECAUSE ALL THREE REPRODUCTIVE  HEALTH OPTIONS OPPOSED BY HOBBY  LOBBY OR CONTRACEPTIVES, NOT  AGENTS TO INDUCE ABORTION. IT'S BASIC SEX ED 101. CONTRACEPTIVES PREVENT  FERTILIZATION FROM EVEN  HAPPENING. SO THERE'S NO PREGNANCY TO BEGIN WITH. AND, UP UNTIL 2012, WHEN HOBBY  LOBBY FIRST DECIDED TO FILE THE  LAWSUIT, TWO OF THE THREE  CONTRACEPTIVE METHODS WERE  ALREADY COVERED UNDER THE  COMPANY'S HEALTH PLAN. IN ADDITION TO ITS CLAIM OF  FIRST AMENDMENT RELIGIOUS  PROTECTIONS, THE COMPANY IS ALSO ARGUING FOR PROTECTION UNDER A  20-YEAR-OLD FEDERAL STATUTE  CALLED THE 1993 RELIGIOUS  FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT, OR  RFRA. THE STATUTE SAYS THE GOVERNMENT  MUST HAVE A COMPELLING INTEREST  TO BURDEN A PERSON'S FREE  EXERCISE OF RELIGION. AND HOBBY LOBBY'S CLAIM IN THIS  CASE IS THAT, YES, WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS, AT LEAST, CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE TOO, MY  FRIEND. JOINING ME NOW IS DEMOCRATIC  STRATEGIST AND MEDIA CONSULTANT, JOHN ROLLING, DEMOCRATIC  STRATEGI STRATEGIST, TARA DOUDEL, I RI IRIN  CARMON, WHO IS A REPORT UP ON  MSNBC.COM RIGHT NOW, AND "DAILY  NEWS" COLUMN -- "DAILY NEWS" --  I'M SORRY. DAILY BEAST COLUMNIST AND FORMER SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO PRESIDENT  GEORGE W. BUSH, RON CHRISTIE. EVERYBODY, WELCOME. IRIN, I'M GOING TO START ABOUT  YOU, WROTE ABOUT RFRA. THE ACT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPORTED AND PASSED BY DEMOCRATS AND  OPPOSED BY CONSERVATIVES. 
>> RIGHT, THE IRONY OF THIS IS  THATN THE EARLY '90s, WHEN  RFRA WAS FIRST PROPOSED, AND IT  WAS PROPOSED IN RESPONSE TO A  CASE, A SUPREME COURT DECISION,  THAT WAS WRITTEN BY JUSTICE  ANTONIN SCALIA, OF ALL PEOPLE,  THAT INVOLVES PAYOTE. SO WHEN EVERYONE WAS TALKING  ABOUT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, THEY  WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO FORCE  THE GOVERNMENT TO VIOLATE THEIR  BELIEFS ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. SO SOMEONE NOT GETTING  UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, BECAUSE  THEY SPOKED PEYOTE AS PART OF A  RELIGIOUS EXERCISE, THAT WAS THE CASE THAT REALLY GALVANIZED  EVERYBODY. THE IDEA WAS PROTECTING  MINORITIES WHO WERE UNPOPULAR,  WHOSE RELIGION WAS MARGINALIZED  FROM PUBLIC LIFE. NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT  CORPORATIONS. NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT  INFRINGING ON THE RIGHTS OF THE SAME  ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE AS OTHER  PEOPLE. 
>> AND EVEN, I THINK,  CONGRESSMAN NABLER, FROM NEW  YORK, WHO WAS PART OF RFRA FROM  THE BEGINNING SAID, THIS WAS NOT PART OF THE PLAN, EVER, WHEN WE  WERE COMING UP WITH THIS. BUT, RON, WHAT ABOUT THE  DECISION COULD MEAN FOR  CORPORATIONS. THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS NOT  ROOTING FOR HOBBY LOBBY TO WIN,  BECAUSE A DECISION HOLDING THAT  A CORPORATION AND ITS OWNERS ARE THE SAME COULD EXPOSE CEOs AND  THEIR CORPORATIONS AND THE  MEMBERS OF THE BOARDS TO  LAWSUITS. 
>> THAT'S RIGHT. AND I THINK WHAT YOU FOUND IN  THIS PARTICULAR CASE, COMING OUT OF CITIZENS UNITED, IN THIS  PARTICULAR CASE, IN CITIZENS  UNITED, A CORPORATION WAS DEEMED AS BEING AN INDIVIDUAL UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT. HOBBY LOBBY IS TRYING TO MAKE  THE SAME ARGUMENT HERE. WE ARE A COMPANY OF CONSCIENCE. WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE AFFORDED THE SAME PROTECTIONS. I AGREE WITH WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. THE FDA ALLOWS 20 CONTRACEPTIVES TO BE PERMITTED AROUND THE ACA. HOBBY LOBBY IS OBJECTING TO  FOUR. AND YOUR LEAD INTO THIS STORY IS EXACTLY RIGHT. THESE AREN'T CONTRACEPTIVES,  THESE ARE MECHANISMS THAT WILL  PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BECOMING  PREGNANT. THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT  DISTINCTION TO MAKE. SO HOBBY LOBBY ISN'T SAYING, WE  SHOULDN'T PROVIDE CONTRACEPTION  TO OUR EMPLOYEES, WE'RE  SPECIFICALLY OBJECTING TO THESE  FOUR PROCEDURES THAT ARE IN  PLACE. 
>> BUT I THINK THE ENTIRE POINT  OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT,  INCLUDING THIS AS PREVENTATIVE  CARE, IS WOMEN HAVE PAID MORE  OUT OF POCKET FOR HEALTH CARE  THAN FOR MEN. WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH  UNINTENDED PREGNANCY IN THIS  COUNTRY. MANY PEOPLE OBJECT TO THE  ABORTION RIGHT THAT IS AS A  RESULT OF THAT UNINTENDED  PREGNANCY RATE, AND IF WE MAKE  IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET VERY EFFECTIVE FORMS OF  CONTRACEPTION, WE'RE GOING TO  TREAT WOMEN'S HEALTH CARE JUST  LIKE ANY OTHER HEALTH CARE. 
>> I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE  SAYING, BUT THIS IS THE WHOLE  ROOT OF WHY PEOPLE HAVE AN  OBJECTION WITH THE ACA. FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE  GOVERNMENT IS COMPELLING  INDIVIDUALS, COMPELLING A  CORPORATION TO PROVIDE --  
>> IT'S A PRIVATE INSURANCE  COMPANY, TO HAVE MINIMUM  COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS. 
>> INSURANCE IS DIFFERENT. I'LL TOSS IT BACK TO YOU,  JONATHAN. 
>> YOU GUYS CAN KEEP GOING. I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT A  RECENT NBC/"WALL STREET JOURNAL" POLL. AND IT ASKS, A GOOD IDEA OR BAD  IDEA. NOW, WHILE 35% OF AMERICANS  THINK OBAMACARE IS GOOD IDEA,  53% THINK EMPLOYERS SHOULD NOT  BE EXEMPT FROM COVERING BIRTH  CONTROL. SO, WE MAY NOT BE IN LOVE WITH  OBAMACARE, BUT WE ARE PRETTY  CLEAR THAT WOMEN SHOULD GET  BIRTH CONTROL AS PART OF THEIR  HEALTH COVERAGE. HOW MUCH INFLUENCE DO YOU THINK  THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE ON THE  COURT'S DECISION? 
>> WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD TALK  ABOUT THE PANDORA'S BOX THIS  DECISION IS GOING TO OPEN UP --  
>> I'M GOING TO GET TO THAT  NEXT. 
>> I MEAN, IN TERMS OF COMPANIES BEING LIABLE, LIKE YOU  REFERENCED. IF I WAS A SMALL BUSINESS, LIKE  I AM, AND EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND  THE COUNTRY, I WOULD WITH  AGAINST THIS. THERE'S NOW A SHIELD FROM  LAWSUITS. YOUR COMPANY IS LIABLE, YOU'RE  NOT LIABLE, IN LAWSUITS. NOT TO MENTION, A COMPANY OR AN  EMPLOYER IMPOSING A POLITICAL  AGENDA ON THE EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS THAT  YOU CAN'T FORCE YOUR EMPLOYEES  TO VOTE A CERTAIN WAY. LAWS ON THE BOOKS THAT YOU CAN'T FORCE EMPLOYEES TO CONTRIBUTE TO CAMPAIGNS. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE BOSS AT WORK, BUT NOT THE BOSS OF  PEOPLE'S LIVES. AND I THINK THERE'S A HUGE LEGAL AND POLITICAL PANDORA'S BOX WE  COULD OPEN WITH THIS DECISION.","media$content":[{"plfile$audioChannels":0,"plfile$audioSampleRate":0,"plfile$bitrate":0,"plfile$checksums":{},"plfile$contentType":"video","plfile$duration":496.0,"plfile$expression":"full","plfile$fileSize":0,"plfile$frameRate":0.0,"plfile$format":"MPEG4","plfile$height":0,"plfile$isDefault":false,"plfile$language":"","plfile$sourceTime":0.0,"plfile$url":"http://link.theplatform.com/s/7wvmTC/mCTJy3KQSyxn?feed=msnbc%20video%20stage","plfile$width":0,"plfile$assetTypes":["OnceURL"]},{"plfile$audioChannels":0,"plfile$audioSampleRate":0,"plfile$bitrate":500000,"plfile$checksums":{},"plfile$contentType":"video","plfile$duration":496.0,"plfile$expression":"full","plfile$fileSize":0,"plfile$frameRate":0.0,"plfile$format":"MPEG4","plfile$height":240,"plfile$isDefault":false,"plfile$language":"","plfile$sourceTime":0.0,"plfile$url":"http://link.theplatform.com/s/7wvmTC/71Ccfh6uHwpw?feed=msnbc%20video%20stage","plfile$width":420,"plfile$assetTypes":["Limelight MP4"]},{"plfile$audioChannels":0,"plfile$audioSampleRate":0,"plfile$bitrate":800000,"plfile$checksums":{},"plfile$contentType":"video","plfile$duration":496.0,"plfile$expression":"full","plfile$fileSize":0,"plfile$frameRate":0.0,"plfile$format":"MPEG4","plfile$height":360,"plfile$isDefault":false,"plfile$language":"","plfile$sourceTime":0.0,"plfile$url":"http://link.theplatform.com/s/7wvmTC/Gr9PZ0MibpRc?feed=msnbc%20video%20stage","plfile$width":640,"plfile$assetTypes":["Limelight MP4"]}],"media$thumbnails":[{"plfile$audioChannels":0,"plfile$audioSampleRate":0,"plfile$bitrate":0,"plfile$checksums":{},"plfile$contentType":"image","plfile$duration":0.0,"plfile$expression":"full","plfile$fileSize":0,"plfile$frameRate":0.0,"plfile$format":"JPEG","plfile$height":1080,"plfile$isDefault":true,"plfile$language":"","plfile$sourceTime":0.0,"plfile$url":"http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Components/Video/__NEW/n_mhp_2hobby_140323.jpg","plfile$width":1920,"plfile$assetTypes":[]}],"plmedia$approved":true,"pubDate":1395590760000,"plmedia$defaultThumbnailUrl":"http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Components/Video/__NEW/n_mhp_2hobby_140323.jpg","state$channelWorkflowState":"nonMigratedVod","nnd$associatedPlaylist":{"href":"http://feed.theplatform.com/f/7wvmTC/nnd_46404075-p"},"nnd$brand":"MSNBC","nnd$bureau":"30RockNY","nnd$bviAssetId":"n_mhp_2hobby_140323","nnd$canonicalUrl":{"href":"http://www.msnbc.com/melissa-harris-perry/watch/aca-faces-more-hurdles-with-hobby-lobby-case-204173891657"},"nnd$defaultAssociation":"","nnd$disableAds":false,"nnd$distributionProfile":["MSN-CA"],"nnd$excludeFromFeeds":false,"nnd$firstAiredAtUtc":1395583941000,"nnd$isUsOnly":false,"nnd$lastAiredAtUtc":1395583941000,"nnd$lastEditorialChangeAtUtc":1395590765000,"nnd$liveVideoStatus":"","nnd$longTitle":"ACA faces more hurdles with Hobby Lobby case","nnd$mezzVersion":1,"nnd$playCount30":2389,"nnd$playCountDay":4,"nnd$playCountYear":0,"nnd$playbackIsDisabled":false,"nnd$playlist":"nnd_46404075","nnd$requiresCaptioning":true,"nnd$shortDescription":"Irin Carmon, Tara Dowdell, John Rowley and Ron Christie look ahead to Hobby Lobby's challenge to the contraception mandate of the Affordable Care Act.","nnd$source":"MHP","nnd$sourceId":"nnd_46404075","nnd$sourceUrlSlug":"melissa-harris-perry","nnd$titleUrlSlug":"aca-faces-more-hurdles-with-hobby-lobby-case","nnd$videoType":"Broadcast","nnd$workbenchId":"54754808"}]});